PlanItMetro

As a regular rider of the 30s, these stop consolidations seem well-considered. Certainly lines up well with my experience riding on Capitol Hill and through downtown! Thanks for working to continue to improve bus services.

Thank you for considering this consolidation as it is very much needed. However, Metro should go further with consolidation along Pennsylvania (SE & NW) and Independence Ave (SE & SW). Even with the elimination of some stops, there are still stops every one to two blocks. Just because stops are used doesn’t mean people couldn’t easily walk a block to a different stop. For example, there is a stop at Independence & 1st SE as well as a stop half a block up at New Jersey Ave. Also, there is a stop at Independence and 6th SW with a stop right around the corner at 7th St.

So how about listing the distancing between each of the stops up for consolidation and the stop before or after it, so that people could get an understanding of exactly how close they are.

There are three questions I do have from looking at the stops
One why are there not the same amount of stop on southbound and northbound trips?
Two why is one stop up for consolidation but the stop across the street in the other direction not why not both ?
Three why are the distances between stops not equal along the whole route in terms of distance in feet or blocks.

When looking at the image of the stop 1002414 which is of terrible quality and a better one should be in its place that is last stop before the H2 turns ; why not move the next stop on Van Ness Street further north so that it could also be used by the H2 and then consolidate stop 1002414

When looking at stop 1001129 why is there such a great distance between the stops nearby in both directions why not have a stops at the following instead of the current ones

Eastbound stops
Jackson Place instead of 17th Street,
share the same stop as the X2 at Lafayette Sq instead of at Madison Place,
Keep New York Ave & 15th Street the same.
Add a stop at 15h & F Street

Westbound
Move the 14th & Penn Ave stops in both directions to the corner of 15th & Penn
Add stop at New York & 15th Street and remove stop 100129

This would provide better access to the area no matter which direction you are coming from currently none of the stops are along the block thus causing people to walk different blocks this is stupid when they could be just across from one another.

I like this idea! I live in Capitol Hill and usually don’t take the 30’s because they take too long and don’t run frequently enough, but if they were more like the 90’s I definitely would.

The Southbound stop at River Rd and Wisconsin is very close to the one at Albemarle St (Tenleytown Station) and the one at Chesapeake St. Whenever it stops there, the bus misses the light at River Road to pick up one or two people while there are often a dozen + people waiting at the next stop at the Metro station. Please consider that stop for elimination.

@Jamie
Jamie, I understand your rationale, but I think it’s much too simple. Passengers will always get off at the stop closest to their destination if given a choice and will protest it being removed. However, the same passengers will also walk one block to their destination if the original stop is no longer available. Rather than simply counting the number of passengers boarding and alighting at each stop, there should be an evaluation of ease of access given the distance of amenities to stops. Just because there are amenities at every block doesn’t mean there needs to be a stop at every block. You can have one stop serve multiple amenities within reasonable walking distance.

Overall the stops proposed for consolidation (and ones rightly no longer proposed) seem well considered. But why would the Macomb Street and Idaho Avenue southbound stops both be eliminated, shortly before a major new mixed-use development, potentially bringing considerable ridership, is set to open on that stretch of Wisconsin Avenue?

I strongly support bus stop consolidation on the 30s route and have been advocating this change for 30+ years. It is crazy that there is a stop at every street corner or every 2 or 3 blocks, making the 30s lines painfully slow. Thank you for finally introducing some sanity.

In general, there should be a stop where lines cross, or where there is a major employer, concentration of residential buildings, or an important destination (Washington Cathedral, for example). Then, the principle should be at least 4 blocks between stops. That way, no destination is more than 2 blocks from a stop.

I do understand that folks with limited mobility might find this a hardship, but they have other alternatives, in general (taxis, etc), and those in motorized wheelchairs generally would seem to be able to get to a stop.

Can I suggest the same principle of stop rationalization be applied to the 80 and S1 routes from 16th & K to Foggy Bottom. There is a stop every block. Crazy.

Please clarify for me. I ride the P17/P19 line. If you remove the stop for the 30 lines, does this mean you are removing it for that line only, or are you removing the stop entirely? As a P17/P19 rider, I would really recommend the stops remain for these bus lines. Like several others, I walk from the Union Station area (I actually start at 830 1st St, NE) because it takes less time than transferring on the buses or riding the subway. This is already a 25 minute walk. Removing this bus stop would make the walk longer since I come down 3rd St (like the others I know).

@Valerie Boykin
It is only the stop at 3rd and Independence that I recommend to stay for the P17/P19 line. V. Boykin